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Freedom to protest freedom - RonO's Ramblings

Jan. 5th, 2007 01:54 pm Freedom to protest freedom

In reading a recent posting by madtechie2718 I came across an article in snopes that included several pictures of a protest last February in London. The protest was over the publication of the Danish cartoons that depicted Mohammad. One of the protesters carried the following sign:
Freedom Go To Hell

I'm struck by their message, and how they were using their freedom of self expression (admittedly not as strong in the UK as it is in the US), to condemn that very freedom.

I'm pretty sure that I would be in trouble in a country with sharia law for saying or doing much less offensive thing.

I also recall one Moslem's statement claiming that Christians would be just as upset over a similar depiction of Christ -- obviously unaware of many much worse depictions of Christ that have been in political cartoons, and artwork, for hundreds of years.

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From:madtechie2718
Date:January 6th, 2007 07:20 pm (UTC)
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While it *may* be true that the government in the US guarantees greater freedom of expression than the UK (discussion elided of any rights that governments may have to *give* freedoms in the first place).

In practice, however is this true? These Islamofascists demonstrated their love of terrorism in a city wherein their friends ('The Fantastic Four' referred to on one of the placards) blew themselves and a sizeable number of our citizens up - yet no-one shot them or beat them senseless.

If they'd tried this stunt in, say, New York, would they have escaped equally unscathed?

Many Muslims (including those referred to as moderate) say they work toward taking Britain into a "Eurabian" Caliphate:

http://www.caliphate.co.uk/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurabia

The views expressed on that site don't sound too terrible at first sight (f/x tounge massively in cheek, here), perhaps, until you read more widely just exactly what dhimmitude was *really* like.

http://www.dhimmitude.org/archive/dhimmitude%20of%20the%20west%20aug02.html

Doubtless 90% of views assigned to both sides may be safely discarded as conspiracy-theorist fodder, but there is still some root cause for concern.
From:madtechie2718
Date:January 6th, 2007 07:28 pm (UTC)
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>I'm pretty sure that I would be in trouble in a
>country with sharia law for saying or doing much
>less offensive thing.

Sure, taking a bible (or, indeed, *any* non-Islamic religious work) - even for personal use - into Saudi, for instance.