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Mar. 9th, 2007 10:10 am So when did...

The Doobie Brothers and Eagles become country groups?

During the hight of their popularity in the mid to late seventies, I seem to remember (I was 10-15 then) that they both were considered a Rock band. Just now, my iPod brought up a song off of a collection of Doobie Brothers hits which in 2007 sounds more Country than Rock. I recall the same effect happened to the Eagles.

Obviously, the music hasn't changed. So when did musical styles change so that what 25-30 years ago was "Rock" is now "Country"

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From:(Anonymous)
Date:March 9th, 2007 04:59 pm (UTC)
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It's country that's changed within the past 10-15 years. It's incorporated more elements of rock and other genres, so it's easy to look back on the forms that pre-dated today's country and hear the common elements. I think it's one reason that country has become a lot more popular- people like Shania Twain and others have _really_ changed the scope of country music, and I think that's a good thing.
From:ann_totusek
Date:March 9th, 2007 05:16 pm (UTC)
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Around 10-15 years ago (perhaps longer) country started incorporating elements of other genres into it more heavily. Shania Twain is a good example of what happens when you add a lot more pop. One of her albums had three releases that were essentially three different mixes- one for the country lovers, one for pop radio, and one for Europe- more Europop/electric sounding. Lonestar, a group that did a ballad called 'I'm Already There' had at least two mixes of it- one that was distinctly country with more slide guitar, etc., and one that was primarily played in the more pop-easy listening market. Then there was "I Swear" which was recorded both by All4One and John Michael Montgomery in the same year, and performed by them all at the Grammys in a blended performance that I remember thinking well of. That was, I believe, 1994.
From:mbcrui
Date:March 9th, 2007 05:39 pm (UTC)
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I always thought they were POP. Some POP has moved into country... some country has moved into Pop. I don't pay attention, anymore, I just listen to what I like.
From:rono_60103
Date:March 9th, 2007 08:11 pm (UTC)
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OK, I tend to think of "pop" as one of the sub-geneses of "rock." I know that that doesn't quite hold depending on how one draws the lines.

This isn't too different then when I took Music Appreciation in college and the text was distinguishing between types of music as "baroque," "romantic," and others, and "classical." Yet to me, and more so to many of my fellow students, they were all "classical.". Of course Music Appreciation was the "easy" humanities credit for Jocks and writing challenged Engineers alike, so it had a rather mixed student makeup.
From:billroper
Date:March 9th, 2007 06:09 pm (UTC)
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I'm of the opinion that the Eagles were always hanging on the border between Rock and Country, much like Lynyrd Skynyrd. Mason Proffit was a band that tried to crossover from Country to Rock a bit earlier and didn't succeed, as I recall the timeline. But it was a fine album and I was delighted to find it (and other of their tracks) on CD a few years back.
From:qnofhrt
Date:March 9th, 2007 06:56 pm (UTC)
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I concur. The groups listed always were heavily influenced by country, just as other groups were influenced by classical or Latin music. I would add Linda Ronstadt to the country influenced. (Her early work especially.)
From:graht
Date:March 9th, 2007 06:21 pm (UTC)
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When they realized that people really did like the Eagles, Doobie Brothers, and Lynard Skinnard(sp?) and would pay for more music like it :)